On my long commute into DC this morning, I fliped the radio to the Tom Joyner Morning Show. It just so happened that his special guest was DL Hughley, who now has his own show on CNN. They were talking about the passing of prop. 8 in CA and gay rights. I don’t think I have ever heard so much ignorance from what I thought were fairly intelligent men. Mr. Hughley explained that he is against the gay lifestyle. (And you know, I know that gays and lesbians refer to the gay lifestyle, but the difference is this: when we say it, we are talking about the culture and who we are and how we identify as gay or lesbian…when they say it, it is always implied that being gay is a complete choice and we choose to love the same sex over the opposite sex. So since we choose it, and we can just as easily choose not to do it, then they have no qualms about denying us our rights because hey, if we don’t like it…just change. So when I hear straight people talking about our “lifestyle” I seethe and cringe).
DL indicated that he is not for having people rights taken away, but then continued to say that he did not vote for or against prop. 8…he did not vote on it at all…he just skipped that question. This just goes to show how people behave when they are seemingly unaffected by something, when it is not relevant to them, then why should they care? Why should they care that the rights of human beings are at stake here? Heck, if it doesn’t affect me then I guess I should stop doing alot of things (i.e., paying taxes) since I could very well just fund those things that I personally use…why should I pay for those old farts with my social security contributions? Why should I care about the environment, I mean by the time the earth blows up due to our bad habits, I will be long gone… I really should have turned the station at that point, but I guess I am glutton for punishment. I love to listen to people floss and flaunt their proud ignorance for the world to see.
Then both Tom and DL indicated how they can’t stand how “the gays” compare their struggle to civil rights. Here we go again… They said that tens of millions of gays haven’t died (wish I guess is a reference to those who died during the slave trade, in slavery and throughout the entire struggle of black plight in America) for their cause. I can’t believe that black folks, of all people can not recognize discrimination when they see it. I can’t believe that we as black people think we have a monopoly on discrimination and that black people are the only ones who have struggled with civil rights in America. DL commented that he can see if the vote was to take away the rights of a person to be counted as a human being…but marriage? He seemed to scoff at the notion of gay marriage being important, and belittled it to being more of a want than a need or a right. Tom Joyner then chimed in with his two cents. He indicated that he spoke to a black lesbian who claimed that she didn’t vote on the issue because there are other bigger issues to worry about, and this (gay marriage) wasn’t one of them. What? Excuse Me? Apparently, there are several groups in CA who think this is a big issue to the point where they have poured millions of dollars against the right of people to marrry who they love. This is a big issue for somebody. Do we have bigger issues? Hell yeah. Were those on the ballot? Heck no. I have to believe that this “black lesbian” was a fictional character who exists solely and exclusively in Mr. Joyners mind.
All the while, Mr. Joyners’ co-host was back there in the Amen corner agreeing with it all. Goodness, I guess when you get 3 ignorant folks together all agreeing with one another then they must be right! Right…yeah…so….anyway…I was disappointed in DL and Tom to say the least. I never had a problem with either of the men, until today. I am thinking about writing the show, someone needs to address this foolishness. Ignorance really is bliss.











22 responses so far ↓
Alix // November 13, 2008 at 6:04 pm |
I hate that! There is something about straight black men talking about LBGTQI issues that always irritates the crap out of me! They are extremely ignorant and they don’t choose to do anything about it. How about that for a choice?
If you want to write them, I’d be happy to write along with you. I bet we know enough writers living our “lifestyle” to get someone’s attention…
Tamara // November 13, 2008 at 10:01 pm |
I stopped listening to Tom Joyner, Steve Harvey, and Russ Parr awhile ago for the same reasons. I didn’t write, just decided not to let the ignorance infiltrate my universe. It really does irritate the hell out of me.
fubarianphoenix // November 13, 2008 at 10:24 pm |
This is so disapointing! I am not really big on Tom Joyner. If I ever listen to talk radio in the morning, it’s the Steve Harvey Morning Show because the chemistry with the crew is great and they keep me laughing. But, I did like DL Hughley before hearing this. It’s weird because I wouldn’t be shocked to hear someone say that Steve Harvey for example disagrees with the homosexual “lifestyle” for religious reasons. Still, I feel like people are entitled to their own beliefs just like me… even if I feel those beliefs are ignorant as hell =o) But, to hear that they went on and on about it like that– and on the radio– is a disgrace to me. Forget about how many listeners and supporters you are disrespecting, how many unbiased and influential young people you are spreading your ignorance to, how many ignorant and hateful people you are validating, etc. I think it’s irresponsible and hurtful on many levels. And on top of that, to say you didn’t vote at all if you had the chance to?? If he voted for it, he should man up and admit to it. On the other hand, if he “skipped” it like he says he did, then he obviously knows on some level that it’s not his place or anyone else’s place to make that call on someone else’s rights. Cop out. Thanks for posting this for those of us who didn’t hear the show.
LLAJ // November 13, 2008 at 10:35 pm |
You see? I said it in one of my blog entries and I will say it again…when you walk in the streets looking obviously gay with your girl, it’s always the black dudes that has something to say..I have never experienced a male of the other races saying anything to me…always the black dudes. Then a friend pointed out to me that it’s due to their low self-esteem. FYI – DL Hughley strikes me as a down-low brother. Maybe that’s what “DL” really stands for.
tami // November 13, 2008 at 10:53 pm |
You know, I’ve never thought of that. LOL. DL=Down Low…hmmm…you know I can see that he may swing that way. good point. Something tells me he’s the bottom…
redoaklines // November 13, 2008 at 10:54 pm |
thanks for this post. i love your comments about the “lifestyle”. you make great points.
-sarah
Alix // November 14, 2008 at 1:11 am |
It is always the black man. Are we a threat to their masculinity somehow?
Leave it to AJ to say the man is on the DL…And leave it to you to say he’s a bottom.
Yall are a mess!
Bella // November 14, 2008 at 1:50 am |
It does seem that DL black men tend to down the gay lifestyle the most… it’s sad.
Deepdiva // November 14, 2008 at 3:56 am |
Of course it’s a threat to their masculinity. If a woman can be pleased by a woman better than a man (and we all know it’s true), and can be dicked down better than a man with a damn strap-on, than what the hell do we need them for?
But it all comes down to this: gay issues are not, and have never been, a serious issue for black folks. They think it’s a somebody else’s problem and fall back to the Bible because it’s safer. I’ve always said it’s easier to live in ignorance because the rent is much cheaper.
LLAJ // November 14, 2008 at 7:02 am |
Down-Low Hughely…damn shame…can’t even come out the closet with his sissy hair style ass.
tami // November 14, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
ya’ll are too funny!
@deepdiva–yes, we always fall back to the Bible. And they keep spewing out the same scriptures and when challenged they spew out more scriptures. if you have a point that they can’t refute…they call you the devil. they just don’t get it.
glennishamorgan // November 15, 2008 at 2:56 am |
Black men to take offense to this a lot. I think their egos or something get hurt and they feel threatened. Then again the majority of Blacks period tend to look down on us.
Alex // November 16, 2008 at 3:56 am |
Can I just say THANK YOU! for that call-out of D.L.? I’m a big fan of his, but that whole “gay lifestyle” bit (which he just repeated on his CNN show tonight) is truly disappointing from an otherwise seemingly intelligent and open kind of guy.
tami // November 16, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
did he really repeat it on his show? i sent a comment to his show through the CNN website about this. not sure if that really got anywhere…
if i went around insisting the earth was flat, i would be in a nut house in a matter of weeks…why can people repeatedly spread ignorance and it’s ok?
Mike // November 16, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
It seems that his latest comments was defending gay marriage. according to his show which aired November 15, 2008
Alix // November 16, 2008 at 6:41 pm |
Ohhh, so did he have a sudden opinion change? lol
Washington City Paper: The Sexist - Prop 8 Protest Roundup // November 17, 2008 at 12:56 pm |
[...] In pro-Prop 8 news: D.L. Hughley hits the radio to explain why he is “against the gay lifestyle.” He was a guest on the Tom Joyner Morning Show last [...]
tami // November 17, 2008 at 1:12 pm |
@Alix…i didn’t see his show, but I know what he said on the radio. wonder if they show repeats during the week, I would def. check it out.
steadycat // November 29, 2008 at 12:55 am |
I’m disappointed in Hugley and Joyner. Money does not erase the ignorance caused by being a person who is priviledged. In this case, yes, black straight men do hold a privilege/power. Unless forced to relinquish it, they will probably continue spewing the ignorance. Tom Joyner loves to boycott shows and products that discriminate against blacks. I’m willing to bet he has never had other black people tellling him that they will boycott him – because of the things he says against gay people. Perhaps thats what he needs?
laughingyouth // January 5, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
Sometimes, people say that there is no common point between being gay and being black in society because they say that people can always hide their homosexuality, but nobody can hide his skin color. They are not totally wrong, I believe, but to me, it is not about being black or gay, it is about being discriminated against. And discrimination is discrimination. Racism or homophobia, it still hurts.
tami // January 5, 2009 at 5:06 pm |
@laughing youth…you are so right! and no one has a monopoly on discrimination!
Gia // March 1, 2009 at 8:29 am |
D.L. Hughley is a closet homosexual. (I think it’s hilarious that he’s using DL as his name).
Usually, it’s the people who are opposing something publicly that are trying to hide something (Hitler was apparently part Jewish, Ted Haggard preached against “homosexual lifestyle”, “family-values Senator David Vitter had a sex escort scandal, as did plenty of others.
My gadar tells me D.L. Hughley falls into that category. I feel so bad for his wife.